week four

Compare the two novels. Which did you like better and why? What does each novel say about intelligence and society's expectations of people? Compare characters portrayed in each? What role do the characters play in conveying the author's message about intelligence?

I think that if I had to chose between the two novels, Flowers for Algernon is way better. It has a plot line that actually makes sense, and its not always people just sitting there, talking in the ranch quarters for workers. Flowers was also a better read because it had more interest to it. The surgery and the entire plot line was a lot more sophisticated then Of Mice and Men. Also, Flowers was a lot easier to read and follow, and it really felt like you where reading an actual journal written by Charlie. But if I had to chose which movie is better I would say Of Mice and Men because it follows the story a lot better then Flowers for Algernon did.
Each novel basically said that intelligence isn't that important for a happy life. Well, at least that's what I got out of it. In Charlies case, he got to be intelligent but he was happy before, and he continued to be happy after the surgery wore off. In Lennies case, he was for the most part happy and hardworking, he was nice and never meant any to do any harm purposely.
Each novels had the main charactors get teased for not being smart. Charlie would get teased by the guys at the bakery and Lennie was teased growing up. Neither of them realized that, and they even laughed and played along with those who were teasing them.

But overall Flowers was by far the better book, and Of Mice and Men was a better movie.

Dylan Coffman Week 4 post

I am comparing the two novels, Of Mice And Men, and Flowers For Algernon. In both of these novels there are some characters that just arent as smart as the average person. Lennie in Of Mice and Men is just slow and in the 1920-30's they didnt really know what this was. When he does things like grab a girls dress this looks like he is trying to rape someone, and these other people dont know how this works exactly. And in Flowers for algernon the main character is slower and he doesn't know that people are making fun of him, when he gets this surgery he is much smarter and he then notices these people he is around daily are actually really mean. These slower characters are picked on and made fun of because they are different intelligence wise. This is wrong and i think they need to be picked on themselves if they get a kick out of picking on slower people.

Week 4 Post

Week 4 Post Assignment

Compare the two novels. Which did you like better and why? What does each novel say about intelligence and society's expectations of people? Compare characters portrayed in each? What role do the characters play in conveying the author's message about intelligence?

Dear mrs marble,

I am doing this at the last minute and i am extremely tired and need to quickly do my rough draft after this. on a better note. i like Flowers For Algernon better, because it had a better story line behind it with more description that could allow the reader connect better with the novel. both novels show how intelligence plays a key part in society, as both Charlie and Lennie had a lack of it and for that, they were treated poorly. both Charlie and Lennie show a strong interest in mice and a need for them to keep them as pets. also they both don't understand the world the way, the rest of the people around them do.

big rayn

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I enjoyed Flowers for Algernon more than Of Mice and Men because it’s overall a better read. Of Mice and Men wasn’t very detailed and even though it was a shorter book it was almost harder to read because you had to take in so much information at once. In Flowers for Algernon you got to learn more in detail about the characters, so it made the novel more interesting. The novels basically say that if someone isn’t normal then they don’t and will never fit in with society. The only time that Charlie was accepted in society was when he was smart, but before that everyone treated him poorly. Lennie and Charlie play the main role in the author’s message about intelligence, but in very different ways. Lennie was not book smart, but knew how to be a hard worker and cared about others feelings. The Of Mice and Men author had a message that even if someone isn’t intelligent doesn’t mean that they are completely dumb. In Flowers for Algernon Charlie played a role in the author’s message that sometimes not being smart is better than being smart. After the operation when Charlie became smart he noticed things that he didn’t before like people making fun of him and judging him. Both authors did show that whether someone is smart or dumb they are still a human and it is wrong for them to be treated as if they aren’t.

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I like Flowers for Algernon better then of Mice And Men because it was more exciting. Also it seems that the book Flowers For Algernon flowed quicker and was a easier to read. Another thing is that it took longer for the book Of Mice And Men to get to a interesting part .The reason that I thought Flowers For Algernon was better was because it was interesting to see how Charlie evolves as a person as he gets smarter. Along with seeing Charlie flash back as he becomes more intelligent.

In the book Of Mice And Men Lenny and George are slow intellectually . I believe this because they don't really now how to function in normal society and only care about each other and getting a farm. Charlie IQ of 99 cause Charlie to be different from society . The similarities between Lenny and Charlie are that they are both mentally handicapped. Also they both have a tendency to trust people to easily. Some of the difference between Lenny and Charlie is that Lenny had a good aunt how has raise him responsibly unlike Charlie's mom how abuse him every chance she got.

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Of Mice and Men was my favorite out of the two books we had to read. I preferred Of Mice and Men because, it wasn't so boring which, made it was easier for me to read. It was just more exciting, where I’d want to read ahead. Where as in Flowers for Algernon, it felt like forever just to get through one page. The book made us look at mental handicaps from two points of view; from theirs and from outsiders so, we got to view it from both sides. I felt like both books made it seem like it was hard to fit in if you're a mental handicapped. In Flowers, Charlie didn't fit in society until he was smart and in Of Mice and Men they didn't really give Lennie much of a voice because of his problem. But, even if you're smart in society that doesn't guarantee that you'll fit in and, if you aren't as smart as the rest that doesn't mean that your opinions don't matter. George, played the role of intelligence in the novel by being a good friend. Lennie, was always getting them into some sort of trouble and George would've to find a way out of it but, he stuck by Lennie's side anyway. I think he wanted the best for Lennie even, if it meant losing his temper on him sometimes.

Week 4: Novel Comparison- Megan Sheridan

I personally liked Flowers for Algernon much better than Of Mice and Men mainly because the setting in Flowers for Algernon is more recent, the story is set in first person (which allows me to relate more to the obstacles Charlie must overcome and his thought process), and the ending proceeds to adequately indicate what happens to the main character after the climax events succeed. Of Mice and Men is presented in third person, which makes it difficult to discern Lennie or George’s internal thought process directly (it must be inferred), and the ending seemed to cut off abruptly with no indication of how George would cope with Lennie’s death or what he would decide to do next.

While both books present an initial hostile or doubting response from society to those with mental disadvantages, Flowers for Algernon examines society’s reaction to a sudden leap in intelligence from that of an intellectual disability to an intellectual genius. As the novel unfolds, Charlie is alienated and misunderstood; ending his run as a genius isolated. However, Daniel Keyes illustrates that the accumulation of intelligence as corrupting, as Charlie begins to become bitter and condescending. Lennie, on the other hand, eventually overcomes the character’s (mostly Curly’s) initial hostility or doubt, and becomes an asset to the farm and a friend to its employees; demonstrating that intelligence is not needed to be content.

Both novels present a negative perspective on amassed intelligence, and an innocent or pure perspective on mental disabilities in Of Mice and Men and Flowers for Algernon.